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ALNM 2021 Ship Bracket (Round 0f 64)

3/22/2021

20 Comments

 
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by Christina
[UPDATE 2]: Ok, here we go.  No matter what I do, I cannot get the password protection to work.  So this is what we're going to do (it takes more work on my end in these early rounds, but I think it's the most effective and also allows everyone to vote).  No captchas.  No passwords.  No e-mail submissions.  I can see every individual vote and IP address that comes in with an exact timestamp.  If I see bots, I'll delete those votes.  If you use a bot to vote at the same rate a normal human would, then that's kinda a waste of a bot isn't it?  If this doesn't work, I'll revisit the solutions tomorrow.  Hope this works for everyone.

[UPDATE]: First off, thank you to everyone for being so nice and lovely in your messages. I’ve tested the polls below and find the captchas just as frustrating. You can only click on so many images of a bike before you lose your mind. I’m in the process of removing all the captchas.  I’ve also extended the close of polls below to make up for all your technical difficulties.

Some notes:
  • Please please be nice
  • Comments are moderated
  • No limits set on number of votes
  • I can delete votes from bots on my end, so keep that in mind
  • Captchas in place (open to adjusting as the round goes on)
  • Polls close Sunday March 28th 6PM PT

All polls available below:
20 Comments
JJ
3/22/2021 06:00:11 pm

Mod

I have been having problems voting using the captcha. I voted once and couldn’t vote again after that ((on the Sanvers and doctor x rose brackets ).. Thank you.

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Addy
3/22/2021 06:21:44 pm

I can’t vote. The captcha on several brackets seems stuck. I cleared cookies and still can’t vote. Please help.

Is the captcha permanent?

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Hellhounds and Banshees
3/22/2021 06:26:56 pm

Mod,

The captcha won’t let me vote. I go through the screens but it won’t let me vote at the end. It seems to happen on several brackets. Thank you in advance.

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BB
3/22/2021 06:31:18 pm

Mod
The captcha will only let me vote once. We can vote multiple times, right? Thank you

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k
3/22/2021 06:42:52 pm

The captchas are driving me batty. I went through ten screens, only for it not letting me vote at end. Halp!

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Berry
3/22/2021 07:45:04 pm

Hello mod!

The captcha is only letting me vote once every few minutes (on any bracket). Do we have to have it?

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KH
3/22/2021 10:18:49 pm

mod


I’m having problems with captcha on several brackets. I seem to be able to only vote once at a time

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Seb
3/22/2021 11:02:12 pm

I’m sorry mod, but I’m finding the captcha pictures hard to see, they’re so fuzzy. And I had to go through like 7 pages before I could verify once. Sorry mod, but this is becoming too frustrating.

Thanks for the poll though. I’ll just cheer from the sidelines.

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eM
3/23/2021 12:00:41 am

thank you very much for doing it for us again!

moderate comments and Captchas are very good ideas :)

good luck everyone!

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JoJo
3/23/2021 01:55:36 am

Is something wrong with captcha? I just went through ten screens before I could vote, and then it wouldn’t let me vote.

Help please.

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Sal
3/23/2021 02:40:54 am

Am I the only one having problems with captcha?

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FF
3/23/2021 04:03:59 am

Is it possible to have this without captcha? Because other than one certain ship, I’m not seeing a lot of votes. I just went through Four pages of buses and fire hydrants to vote once. Please, is there any other way to vote? Because um having Eonline flashbacks here.


◉_◉

Sorry, mod.

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DD
3/23/2021 06:25:07 am

How is the Sanvers bracket the only one with more than a handful of votes?

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HG
3/23/2021 07:44:18 pm

Thanks mod for removing captcha. I was starting to think I’d see fire hydrants in my sleep. Lol.

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ALNM Mod Christina link
3/24/2021 11:35:42 am

I FEEL YOU. Traffic lights and bicycles will haunt me in my sleep for weeks.

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Msm
3/25/2021 12:42:55 am

Hello! Not to cause more problems for you (I swear I don't mean to) but I'm thinking something might be wrong because I'm trying to vote and my votes don't seem to be counted for some reason? I even tried deleting cache and it still doesn't mark my votes properly when I select Vote.

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ALNM Mod Christina link
3/26/2021 09:47:24 pm

Unfortunately, there's still nothing I can do about the ~25 vote limit imposed by Crowdsignal. It seems to lock you out for a couple hours if you vote more than about 25 times a minute. I haven't actually tested what the true limitations are.

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MSM
3/27/2021 09:52:51 am

Hi! I don't want to be all annoying or anything but I really think something is wrong with one of your polls. If there is a 25 lock limit it's not applying to both sides.
Because how is it that the other ship in the poll is jumping up by 1000 votes a minute (literally) when I only got to vote maybe 30 times max? I think someone has a bot you're not aware of or is messing with the results in order to make the other ship lose.
And I swear I'm not just saying it because of the ship losing, I mean, if you look at the number of overall votes it's just not plausible that there are THAT many votes compared to the number of votes logged for other ships in this bracket of polls.
I think someone is messing with it on purpose that you aren't aware of.
Anyway, I know it's your poll and all and it's totally up to you how you want to do it but tbh, the brackets aren't really fair if one side is being allowed more votes, you know?

ALNM Mod Christina
3/27/2021 04:54:51 pm

I don't know the exact limitations Crowdsignal puts on their polls to detect fraud activity. But I can see every individual vote with a time stamp down to the second alongside an IP address. I haven't seen any rushes of a thousand votes in a minute on my initial review. I do see mostly bunches of 25-30 votes from any IP address at a time with breaks before the next bunch. But I did just only look at the more active polls just now. Could you be more specific so I can review your concerns? Another possibility is there could be a delay in the votes being displayed here on the site that I could look in to.

And honestly, I'm one person with a very small website with a very limited amount of traffic. If just one fandom sees the bracket on social media, they can very quickly overwhelm the polls with just a handful of people voting. Every year in the early rounds there are a few polls that will see thousands of votes coming through while another will end up with, like, 50. I see that happen every year and the poll activity starts to even out as the ships are trimmed down. That's how typically juggernaut ships get knocked out early. I'm also very familiar with fandoms of different ships teaming up with each other early on to eliminate competition. What I'm trying to say I think is there are lots of factors at play but I'm trying to best I can with limited resources to keep it fun for all of you.

MSM
3/27/2021 06:35:40 pm

Hi again! I just want to say first that I appreciate you trying to manage this. I mean it can't be easy to watch all these votes all at once so kudos for that and I really am not accusing you of anything or being like some kind of sore loser-I'm seriously not because I actually like both ships in the poll I was voting in, I just wanted to let you know that I still think there's something going on you're not aware of, outside of the factors you mentioned, that you might want to look into more for your future polls.

The specific poll I'm referring to is the Reylo /Caryl poll. (again, I'm actually a fan of both ships so I really don't have invested interest in !needing! one to win over the other because yay for both, seriously lol) but I, and a bunch of friends who were voting for Reylo kinda just stopped and gave up because every time we vote, we get maybe 9 or 10 in and then what happens is our votes lock down completely and the other side seems to jump by 100s all the while we can't vote at all. And the part that makes it the most suspicious is that it happens at !every! random moment of the day. I totally get that different people log on at different times and there are time zone differences but it just isn't a coincidence that at literally any time of day I make a vote (day or night), that there is someone ready to vote 100 times for the other side at the same time as me and my one vote.
Anyway, I know this is supposed to be all in fun, and like I said, I'm happy with Caryl winning too so this is only in the interest of a fair poll, we wanted to let you know for future reference that it really feels like something is wrong considering that poll alone has over 30000 votes. (Like some kind of bot or something doing something you can't track idk) Anyways, thanks for replying, that's all I wanted to say. Cheers.

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